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My ideas for 1.5 Bowser
07/13/2010, 09:06 PM
Post: #1
I think Bowser is overall pretty solid. His recovery is much better, super armor lets him get grabs and strong hits in all day, and he has great damage output. I think he's high-mid tier right now, maybe low-high tier, but these are my suggested changes for the character--

Bowser:
  • Down B cancelable from any part of the move with jump or shield. Holy shit. Brilliant.
  • Maybe better comboability from his throws? Something into fair would be nice.

I'd say this is really all Bowser needs.

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07/13/2010, 09:19 PM
Post: #2
U throw-> Fair from out DI U throw-> Uair from in DI, no lie it works.

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07/14/2010, 04:37 PM
Post: #3
I think he's a little too easy to cape for mario. Cause for some reason the cape can get to him before he grabs the ledge even if mario is above the ledge due to bowser's massive size.

I think it's cause bowser auto-sweetspots a fraction later than most chars.
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07/16/2010, 01:09 AM (This post was last modified: 07/16/2010 01:15 AM by Veril.)
Post: #4
So Mario has an option to counter Bowser. Bowser also has SA on everything and Mario's moveset does not work well with that.

Its probably cause Bowser's ledgesnap distance is very short in comparison to the rest of the cast and he extends the cape-able hitbox beyond his normal hurtbox when he up-bs iirc. This is a very isolated occurrence and not worth altering two extremely significant moves over. Maybe if it were less central elements of their design that would be acceptable but... cape and fortress are extremely important moves that should be approached with caution.

Also Mario can always gimp Bowser. Always...

Having specific rather than diffuse cancel points on Bowser's down-b would be a better option. That move always forces a response action and whenever that's the case its important that the cancel makes the game better, not just bowser's game ;p That move also has additional early hitboxes which would allow for combos into a ton of crap if shield canceled post hit. So definitely it could be really cool if implemented but the points would need to be really the exact right points, not any point.

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07/16/2010, 01:07 PM
Post: #5
IMO the only thing Bowser needs is a buff to Giga Bowser :V
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