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Captain Falcon Q&A
05/19/2012, 10:11 PM (This post was last modified: 11/19/2012 11:34 PM by Scorpio.)
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05/20/2012, 06:24 AM
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(05/19/2012 10:11 PM)Scorpio Wrote:  I think that falcon is more broken than alot of characters. If not, then he's at least easier to use. If he touches you, you're dead. He pretty much has 0-death combos every time he grabs you, and his fair does so much dmg and knockback it's just ridiculous.

Well, first of all, you might wanna learn to DI. There are a few characters that really suffer from "OHGODIJUSTGOTTOUCHEDBYCFANDDIED" syndrome (Bowser is probably the most notable one), but most chars don't really have too much of an issue with CF's combos if you DI well and mix the opponent up. Secondly... There are a lot of characters that simply out-range, out-box, out-zone, and out-camp CF – you shouldn't actually be landing that many clean hits to begin with. CF is a little like ZSS, except he doesn't have the cheap-ass projectile she has.

Quote:Oh, and Ls777, why do you keep insisting that CF is so manly? He's just muscular and sounds like he's gay.


...Nonono

Quote:Also, gaymanwatch was so broken in vbrawl that if you didn't change him at all, he could compete against most of the minus cast. Gaymanwatch is such an underated character. He's really only low tier because nobody plays him.

No, he's legitimately bad. His design is piss-poor (we're working on a fix), he has essentially no combos, his damage output and kill power are both meh... He's like Marth if Marth couldn't chain aerials or Bowser if Bowser died at 90 and didn't have armor. Worst in the game? Oh, definitely not. He's "strictly worse than" half of the cast at almost everything, but he doesn't get hard countered very often, which is more than one could say about Snake or Link, and he's not completely and utterly useless as to our current knowledge, which is more than one could say about Olimar (and maybe ICs)... But no, he's pretty bad, and will be getting a major revamp.

Quote:And, Oh, Cadet, I think that we've established that Tiers don't mean anything in this game.

We meaning... Your group of friends? The forum scrubs? Because lemme tell you, whoever "we" is, they're wrong. Tiers always mean things, and the balance in this game is nowhere near as good as you think it is – there are certain characters who everyone will agree are the "upper crust", so to speak: Lucario, ZSS, and Sheik/Zelda, to name a few. There are also chars like CF, Olimar, and Snake, who are indisputably among the worst in the game. It's certainly not like in Brawl, where the difference between a top tier and a low tier was almost insurmountable, and there are a lot of matchups that are very even, but saying "Tiers don't matter" is ludicrous.

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05/20/2012, 01:21 PM (This post was last modified: 05/20/2012 01:22 PM by Peachy-Desu.)
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Olimar bad? Japan cries because of this statement lmaooooooo. XDDDDDD No but srs.. falcon gets combo'd for days. Even with DI lol fastfall syndrome~
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05/20/2012, 03:11 PM (This post was last modified: 11/19/2012 11:27 PM by Scorpio.)
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05/20/2012, 03:28 PM
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Captain is definitely Mid tier. Zero approach, no priority and for captain to capitalize your opponent has to make mistakes. But when you play high level opponents who put them self into safe situations and mix up habits captain struggles ALOT. Now I would disagree Captain gets comboed for days, good DI always helps him escape.

As for Olimar he has ALOT of potential and Snake...poor Snake

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05/20/2012, 05:07 PM
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(05/20/2012 01:21 PM)Peachy-Desu Wrote:  Olimar bad? Japan cries because of this statement lmaooooooo. XDDDDDD No but srs.. falcon gets combo'd for days. Even with DI lol fastfall syndrome~

That... I kinda doubt, but okay, whatevs.

(05/20/2012 03:11 PM)Scorpio Wrote:  Cadet... Cadet... Before I reply to the rest of the stuff you said, let's get one thing straight. I do effing not think that this game is balanced. I think that in some patches this game was infinitely worse than vbrawl. Ok, not infinitely. But I would have thought that with all of my ranting, raving, and broken caps lock, you would have realized that I think that this bloody game is more unbalanced than anyone else here.

I guess I haven't been paying attention. But yes, this game has been broken as fuck for a while. 1.0 Luigi was dumb. 1.5 Ness was dumber. 1.6 Pikachu was almost as dumb. 2.X Lucario has the dumbass syndrome built into his downB. Et cetera.

Quote:As for tiers not meaning anything... That came out wrong. What I really mean is tier LISTS. Since there IS NO OFFICIAL TIER LIST- srry my caps lock broke again... Who's good is all in the minds of the people playing, and nobody seems to agree on who's good and who isn't. I'm not the only one that's saying that making a tier list for this game is stupid.

But that's not what we were talking about. When I say "low tier", there's an implied meaning there. I'm not just saying "low on a tier list", I'm saying "generally bad in comparison to other members of the cast". And for the record, the BBR is working on an "official" tier list. No promise, however, that it won't be shit.

Quote:By the way, you sound angry. You don't just ACT like you do, like me.


I'm acting angry? News to me. Maybe you ought to stop projecting?

Quote:And then I imagine. And poof. You're mad. Mad. Mad. Real Mad. So let me just ask you a simple question:

you mad?

lolwut

(05/20/2012 03:28 PM)DarkRiku Wrote:  As for Olimar he has ALOT of potential and Snake...poor Snake

Olimar is just too inconsistent. I mean, sure, there might be potential there, but show me someone who can use it. Hell, show me someone who can tell you which pikmin is gonna get chucked next when there's more than two out!

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05/20/2012, 05:21 PM (This post was last modified: 05/20/2012 05:21 PM by DarkRiku.)
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Haha that is a good point I honestly think just one Pikimin is the way to go.

As for Snake he is perfect as is. He just isn't so great

Whens next patch?

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05/20/2012, 11:13 PM (This post was last modified: 11/19/2012 11:34 PM by Scorpio.)
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05/21/2012, 09:43 AM
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Well any character can be good in a noob match lol. Any combo character is good against heavies once they hit them. His combos really are super easy to get out of. DI out of them and mix up your techs and Captain just can't really get alot going

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05/22/2012, 02:51 PM (This post was last modified: 05/22/2012 03:01 PM by Ls777.)
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(05/20/2012 03:11 PM)Scorpio Wrote:  By the way, you sound angry. See, I use caps lock and act like an idiot because 1: this is the Internet... I can. And 2: nobody EVER pushes that poor caps lock button. But I'm not angry. I'm not crazy. I'm not. Behind your cool words, I really feel like you're mad. I feel like you truly take this seriously. You don't just ACT like you do, like me. I feel like you're really taking this seriously. Is it just me, or am I imagining things? Hm? It's probably just me. It's ALWAYS just me. Just me and myself. Because I imagine alot. So you're probably just saying words. And then I imagine. And poof. You're mad. Mad. Mad. Real Mad. So let me just ask you a simple question:

you mad?

(05/20/2012 11:13 PM)Scorpio Wrote:  Hahhhahheheheheeehoooohoheeeheeehahah... WHAT?... Is that what lolwut means, my dear mr Cadet? Just making sure. You never know with these modern day memes. But, seriously, what do you mean by lolwut? Do you not understand? I'm asking a simple question; are. You. Mad? Because it still seems like it. If you don't understand, then you just have to be crazy. CraZy crazy. Lolwut crazy.

As for the tier list thing, I'm glad that we're finally on the same page. Or, if not the same page, the same planet at least. Wait. That doesn't make sense. It can't be the same planet, that doesn't make sense. Planets are big and round. Pages are square and flat. What am I thinking.

you are absolutely batshit insane.




As for Oli, hes alot stronger if you only use 1 pikmin, or 2 once in a while to mix it up, and go solimar alot. In fact, if you are in a bad position you can either soli-side-b into the opponent, or away from him and then you are set to be gay with pikmin again
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05/23/2012, 12:24 AM (This post was last modified: 11/19/2012 11:26 PM by Scorpio.)
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05/23/2012, 05:39 AM
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And so humble :V

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05/23/2012, 10:45 AM (This post was last modified: 05/23/2012 12:15 PM by Ls777.)
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(05/23/2012 12:24 AM)Scorpio Wrote:  Dear Ls777

I'm not insane. I'm just what you people call insane, crazy, and mad.

See, us "mad" people... We come to the same "logical" conclusions that you so called "normal" people do. We just take a different route. See, I just see things how they really are. I don't have my head in this cloud of disbelief and arrogance. See, I think deep down, everyone's crazy. It's just that some people show it, decide to be their true selves, but others hide. Like clowns behind masks. See, I just AM my true, pure self. In a way, I'm more human than you are. But "normal" people choose to be the "self" shaped by society. They let it dress them up and make them dance around and fall down. And then. And then you let them laugh at you for it. Who's really the clown here?

See, I'm not crazy, I'm not. I just don't get how bat waste is insane. Insanity is insanity because of your view point. Where you stand. I just stand in a different place. It feels like a wall of glass. Me on one side. The rest of the world on the other.

But really, how is bat **** insane?

everytime i talk to you, i get a vivid mental picture of a guy in a straight jacket, earnestly insisting that he isn't crazy. You should throw some evil laughs in there, would really complete the picture
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05/23/2012, 01:54 PM (This post was last modified: 11/19/2012 11:25 PM by Scorpio.)
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05/23/2012, 09:46 PM
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What does this have to do with Capt. Falcon, exactly?

Incidentally, straight jackets are designed to bind mentally unstable people so they can't use their arms, as said crazy people would probably try to use them to hurt themselves or other people. As straightjackets have a tendency to make it nearly impossible to balance, they are often accompanied by padded rooms.

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05/23/2012, 11:46 PM
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(05/23/2012 09:46 PM)Thunda-Moo Wrote:  What does this have to do with Capt. Falcon, exactly?
As straightjackets have a tendency to make it nearly impossible to balance, they are often accompanied by padded rooms.

Really? I thought the padded rooms were just to prevent themselves from hurting themselves and thats it.. I dont see why a straight jacket should screw with your balance
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