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LOlimar
12/14/2009, 12:02 AM
Post: #41
After minutes of thinking on the toilet, (really Tongue) I've come to realize that reducing Oli's size to .25 may not be the best idea: One of his most annoying matchups is against Falco, but a shrunken Oli destroys a typical Falco's playstyle, as grounded lasers will not hit. This forces falco to run in for chaingrabbing shenanigans, at which point, oli runs away and pivot grabs. This would likely hurt the other spacies, as well as pika.

I think a more suitable size change is to .75.

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12/18/2009, 07:06 PM (This post was last modified: 12/19/2009 01:17 AM by ebxoqq.)
Post: #42
I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but more pikmin is pretty much impossible. You can make olimar keep pulling pikmin, but an old one will disappear. If air pulling is added, it could prevent being left without pikmin, disappearing pikmin could be a potential mindgame, and you gain more control over what pikmin you have.

I would say that olimar having a close range flower effect would be a great idea, it gives a good advantage to attacking up close.

As for recovery, give it more endlag and remove the fallspecial. It needs to have more endlag or it becomes a broken, stalling, uber Wall of Pain (even by Brawl- standards)

Obviously, pikmin could get some damage and KB buffs as well.

Overall, Olimar pretty much rapes with Brawl- hitstun. So, it shouldn't be too difficult to even him with everyone else.

EDIT: Just got another idea, make olimar jump REALLY high in his recovery, but it doesn't "grab" the ledge. Then he loses the disadvantages of a tether and gets more recovery distance.

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01/29/2010, 11:06 PM
Post: #43
Olimar's up-B jump should be as powerful as a 5-pikmin tether, and the ledgegrab should be availible from the beginning of the jump rather than the beginning of the specialfall animation. (Which with pikmin is ~1 second AFTER falling from the apex, while without, it's immediately after reaching the apex)

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04/06/2010, 09:58 PM
Post: #44
BUMP, so people can see the OP.

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04/07/2010, 05:43 AM
Post: #45
Add them all imo, they sound ok.

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04/07/2010, 02:59 PM
Post: #46
olimars pretty much untouchable for chars that dont have a QUICK and damn do i mean quick from above approach
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04/07/2010, 06:34 PM
Post: #47
(04/07/2010 05:43 AM)Rkey Wrote:  Add them all imo, they sound ok.

All of what?

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04/08/2010, 07:34 PM
Post: #48
The one's in the OP, which you bumped so that we could se them, of course?

(11/15/2009 03:19 PM)The Cadet Wrote:  Proposed General Changes
Can pull out more than 6 pikmin (max 8?)
Pikmin and Olimar size x0.25
Air mobility way up (to make him be able to move as fast in the air small as he did big); jump height by the same amount.
upB will latch onto the ledge from miles away (seriously); brings him forwards and up a good distance, can be used maximal 2 times before hitting the ledge/landing again.[/i]


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04/08/2010, 07:51 PM
Post: #49
No, those are ideas from the original post, when the thread was first made. I probably should have just deleted it.

All of those have either already been done or are impossible.

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04/08/2010, 08:50 PM
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(04/06/2010 09:58 PM)Sr.PyR Wrote:  BUMP, so people can see the OP.

Then you shouldn't say this.

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04/08/2010, 09:00 PM (This post was last modified: 04/08/2010 09:01 PM by ebxoqq.)
Post: #51
I just did it so, people could suggest some ideas. Like I said.

If I didn't post that, people would have never seen the OP.

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04/08/2010, 09:11 PM
Post: #52
Ok, now I get it. You wanted us to see the OP because it sucked, correct?

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04/08/2010, 09:17 PM
Post: #53
>.>

No, I edited the OP to ask for ideas on how to give olimar more flair. I had to post since editing an existing post doesn't move the topic up or even show it has new posts.

I figured it would be a good way to get some ideas together, since he definitely needs some stuff.

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04/09/2010, 07:48 AM
Post: #54
Ok, enough of your self pwning, this is what has been said

1. Sr. Pyr wants me to look at the OP
2. I look, find the changes ok, say that they are
3. Sr. Pyr wonders what I'm talking about
4. I say I'm talking about the OP
5.
(04/08/2010 07:51 PM)Sr.PyR Wrote:  No, those are ideas from the original post, when the thread was first made. I probably should have just deleted it.

All of those have either already been done or are impossible.
6. This gets me kind of confused, since he said I should look at the OP, and now says that those things are outdated. I arrive at the one possible explanation: Since they are from the original post and they are not good, but he still wanted us to look at them, it has to be because they are not good and we should come up with better ides.
7. NOW, Sr. Pyr suddenly says that he EDITED the OP (?!?) and that the ideas he first said "No, they were from the Original Post" (Which OP is the abreviation of), are actually his own (?!?). This could mean a number of things, out of which none makes sense:
  • A long time ago, Sr. Pyr edited the OP and bumps his ideas several weaks later. However, the ideas are at the same time somehow a part of the original post, which means that he edited them a second after BPC posted.
  • Someone else made Sr. Pyrs first post, second and third post.
  • Someone else made Sr. Pyrs last post.
  • The "Original Post" does not refer to "The original post in this thread", but instead the first post on the entire forum, which had ideas for Game and Watch, therefore the confusion between "OP" and "Original post", which I thought were the same thing.

Do you understand that I am VERY confused here? Am I the only one? You've contradicted yourself several times.

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04/09/2010, 05:33 PM
Post: #55
Sorry, looking back I realize that was REALLY confusing.

I edited the OP two days ago, to help collaborate ideas on how to flair Olimar. Immediately (like two minutes) after, I bumped it because editing the OP does not change the status of the thread or move it up.

BPC's post was from when he originally created the thread (whenever Brawl- was started), which is now deleted.

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04/09/2010, 06:40 PM (This post was last modified: 04/09/2010 06:40 PM by JoeTE.)
Post: #56
So the ideas in the OP, are they yours or BPC's, and if they are not yours: where are your ideas? In other words: WHERE YOU AT?!?

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04/10/2010, 12:44 AM (This post was last modified: 04/10/2010 12:51 AM by ebxoqq.)
Post: #57
EDIT: Never mind >.>

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04/10/2010, 01:27 AM
Post: #58
I'm going through the pikmin as we speak. Expect flair Wink
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04/10/2010, 07:16 AM
Post: #59
Sry Sr. Pyr, don't really know why I can't understand you. So yeah, let's never mind.

AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY SR.PYR!!!! <3Big Grin<3Big Grin

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04/10/2010, 01:48 PM
Post: #60
Big Grin Thanks

I just decided to give up because of tson's epic Olimar hex stuff.

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