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Fox-PAC Alpha'd
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04/05/2010, 03:34 PM
Post: #81
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First off: sorry for upsetting you, I felt I might have gone to far but didn't stop myself Second: Since I had opinions on his wd with some decent arguments, and you just said it was ok with no real arguments (since you dropped the fact that you wanted control), I found it weird that you were arguing against me when I made the pretty obvious and reasonable statement: "Ok, TSON, is there anything to loose in making it faster? No, there isn't. So: let's make it faster." Sure, if you don't want to do it I can do it, once I get PSA. Sorry again for making you angry, I'm used to a community much more harsch than this. |
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04/05/2010, 04:33 PM
Post: #82
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tson is mad. fox is not that good in b- compared to most the cast :/ waveshine and other things wd can do would make a huge difference if you have the tech skill |
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04/05/2010, 04:59 PM
Post: #83
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You can waveshine, and it's consecutive.
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04/05/2010, 07:54 PM
Post: #84
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pretty sure its escapable with proper di lolololol, unlike the melee waveshine where its too fast for that the current shine is awful compared to how good it could be and how much itd change foxes playstyle |
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04/05/2010, 07:57 PM
Post: #85
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Melee shine was escapable with SDI + DI.
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04/05/2010, 07:58 PM
Post: #86
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perfect di :/ this one is WAY easy to di out of |
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04/06/2010, 12:19 AM
Post: #87
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Lessening the frames will just make it harder to pull off. It's not like the speed is gonna matter when you have the opponent mashing both sticks trying to get out
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04/06/2010, 03:22 AM
(This post was last modified: 04/06/2010 03:24 AM by Kewkky.)
Post: #88
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the waveshine is pretty fun, but despite that he's not all that great. He merely has all the tools at his disposal to beat his opponents. Some characters have those tools several times over, and they require a lot less tech skill to use. It's really not Fox's fault. It's the rest of the cast. Falco has a combo game that's at least as good as Fox's, along with a ridiculous recovery. That recovery allows you to phantasm away from the stage, spike your opponent while they're recovering, then jump and phantasm back. |
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04/06/2010, 08:29 AM
Post: #89
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His shine seems to have NO hitstun. Like none at all. I remember yesterday I shine spiked a Luigi offstage and IMMEDIATLY got NAir'd out of the shine. It was ridiculous... He doesn't seem really good, but I love all the options you get from the Illusion cancelling. |
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04/06/2010, 12:48 PM
Post: #90
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could just increase the damage on the shine
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04/06/2010, 06:17 PM
Post: #91
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that didnt stop people from doing it in melee perfectly :/ and idk wtf that is dude but shine has massive hitstun, but yeah fox is DEFINITELY not much above lowtier if not the worst character |
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04/06/2010, 07:03 PM
(This post was last modified: 04/06/2010 07:04 PM by Wave Kusanagi.)
Post: #92
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Simply put, if you're a scrub, get out of this thread and go play falco. Fox isn't meant to be easy mode. Im not gonna rant but seriously get out of this thread if you're gonna be like that. And the shine hitstun is known and is being looked into |
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04/07/2010, 02:46 PM
Post: #93
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lol we asking for hard mode, you are smart. scrub. |
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