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ITT: Rkey gripes about my lousy coding skills - MK GD
04/27/2010, 08:48 AM (This post was last modified: 04/27/2010 02:09 PM by Bionic.)
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MK is top tier. Discuss.

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04/27/2010, 11:35 AM
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jiggz is better.

gay thread title is gay.

metas actually an alien from the same planet and is same species as kirby, and not a bat
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04/27/2010, 01:24 PM (This post was last modified: 04/27/2010 01:26 PM by JoeTE.)
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- I hate how MK goes into freefall randomly, and how he can JC it.
- I hate MK's u-smash
- I hate the fact that pressing b after you've tornadoed makes you bounce and go into freefall.
- I hate that MK's freefall is actually not is freefall, unless you've got extra jumps.

MK is the one I'm actually ashamed of, and appologize for when I show brawl- to people, because everyne agrees that he looks like a sloppy job made by a bad programmer. He should be like this:

- It's ok that you can jump after using b-moves, but he shouldn't go into freefall, he should go into special fall afterwards. Someone flashing in freefall is supposed to be in freefall, not in regular fall.
- Pressing b after executing a b-move in the air should not result in a random freefall, nothing should happen. You can't say that "I want an input for what I'm pressing", because the only thing that happens is a laggy switch to an animation that means "you can't do anything" when the truth is that pressing that button did nothing. Think of sonic after his spring, using b-moves should act like this.
- U-smash is bad imagination, what's the difference between this and shorthop uair? Also, charging it just looks so weird, and does it even have an effect? Can't we take the u-smash and loop the first two hits 4 times with 1% damage each? At least that's funnier than this worthless and ugly looking thing.

I used to like MK, this is one of the characters in our project that I feel really disgusted about. I tried to talk about this during Alpha development, but I seemed to be only one caring about this so I dropped it. I'm giving it a second chance now, and I would like response from several people since I really cannot see how anyone could like the random and bad looking freefall on his b-moves.

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04/27/2010, 02:00 PM (This post was last modified: 04/27/2010 02:07 PM by Bionic.)
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(04/27/2010 11:35 AM)gangstakirby Wrote:  jiggz is better.

gay thread title is gay.

metas actually an alien from the same planet and is same species as kirby, and not a bat

Fuck you he's a bat. :V

(04/27/2010 01:24 PM)Rkey Wrote:  - I hate how MK goes into freefall randomly, and how he can JC it.
- I hate MK's u-smash
- I hate the fact that pressing b after you've tornadoed makes you bounce and go into freefall.
- I hate that MK's freefall is actually not is freefall, unless you've got extra jumps.

MK is the one I'm actually ashamed of, and appologize for when I show brawl- to people, because everyne agrees that he looks like a sloppy job made by a bad programmer. He should be like this:

There's a reason you're, AFAIK, the only one-it's not really a big deal.

Let's take it bit by bit...

Quote:- It's ok that you can jump after using b-moves, but he shouldn't go into freefall, he should go into special fall afterwards. Someone flashing in freefall is supposed to be in freefall, not in regular fall.

Fun fact: putting him in regular fall would probably be a nightmare... would it? Actually, I could try that right now, but no promises.

Quote:- Pressing b after executing a b-move in the air should not result in a random freefall, nothing should happen. You can't say that "I want an input for what I'm pressing", because the only thing that happens is a laggy switch to an animation that means "you can't do anything" when the truth is that pressing that button did nothing. Think of sonic after his spring, using b-moves should act like this.

Same problem as above. It's not a fun coding job, okay? In fact, to fix this at all, I gotta figure out wtf Wingy did.

Quote:- U-smash is bad imagination, what's the difference between this and shorthop uair? Also, charging it just looks so weird, and does it even have an effect? Can't we take the u-smash and loop the first two hits 4 times with 1% damage each? At least that's funnier than this worthless and ugly looking thing.

Do me a favor. Do some usmash->aerial strings and tell me how safe they are. Or usmash->jump aerial. Or something. Usmash is incredibly good. What are you smoking?

Quote:I used to like MK, this is one of the characters in our project that I feel really disgusted about. I tried to talk about this during Alpha development, but I seemed to be only one caring about this so I dropped it. I'm giving it a second chance now, and I would like response from several people since I really cannot see how anyone could like the random and bad looking freefall on his b-moves.

EDIT: No. Changing it to normal fall makes the game crash, and I STILL can't find where he goes into specialfall out of up B.

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04/27/2010, 02:05 PM (This post was last modified: 04/27/2010 02:05 PM by JoeTE.)
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Simple answer:

I'll give you an MK .pac in a week, and you'll love it.

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04/27/2010, 02:09 PM
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Knock yourself out.

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04/27/2010, 02:14 PM
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(04/27/2010 02:09 PM)The Cadet Wrote:  Knock yourself out.

You bet I will :3

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04/29/2010, 12:55 PM
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mks usmash is great, it stops approaches dead in their tracks

but yeah him going into freefall and it not really being freefall is gay, i mean if you could have the same effect but with special fall thatd be way better... maybe even make it like snake where if you grab the special fall and just let his ass fall then he is gonna fall to his death, iirc the current version he gets his b moves back when grabbed
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05/04/2010, 09:28 AM
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(04/27/2010 02:00 PM)The Cadet Wrote:  [quote='gangstakirby' pid='6055' dateline='1272378926']
Quote:- Pressing b after executing a b-move in the air should not result in a random freefall, nothing should happen. You can't say that "I want an input for what I'm pressing", because the only thing that happens is a laggy switch to an animation that means "you can't do anything" when the truth is that pressing that button did nothing. Think of sonic after his spring, using b-moves should act like this.

Same problem as above. It's not a fun coding job, okay? In fact, to fix this at all, I gotta figure out wtf Wingy did.
Replace all instances of change action 10 in MK's specials to change action E. Should solve your problems.
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05/04/2010, 06:54 PM
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lol get raped.
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05/28/2010, 12:20 AM
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I'm pretty sure MK is still the best character in this game. His dash dance is so offensive and allows him to mix up his attack so effectively. Up smash is a perfect set up off of the dash dance, every aerial is super fast and stuns long enough to run away without being hit or countered. Add powered up special moves to the moves that were already powerful and made him top tier fuels the fire. His aerial and gimping game is unstoppable.

Ledge guards and recovery are, imo, the key to mk's status as the best character in the game. He is is the safest character off the stage and the most deadly off the stage. More gimps and kill combos than any one character. Have you seen M2K gimp a snake in Brawl? Imagine what you can do with more freedom and more hit stun.

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05/28/2010, 12:37 PM
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mk is definetly top 5 imo, but jiggz, pit, and falco are probably better.....
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05/28/2010, 05:11 PM
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As of right now, in 1.1, Lucario is probably the best, no joke.

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05/28/2010, 05:25 PM (This post was last modified: 05/28/2010 05:26 PM by gangstakirby.)
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jiggly puff da bess, you fuck up i rest.
NOOOOOO CENSORSHIIIIP

i jus got way sad.
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05/29/2010, 10:39 AM
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I disagree.

10disagrees.

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(05/28/2010 12:37 PM)gangstakirby Wrote:  mk is definetly top 5 imo

(05/30/2010 12:17 PM)gangstakirby Wrote:  mk is top 10 MAYBE.

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05/29/2010, 12:50 PM
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"every aerial is super fast and stuns long enough to run away without being hit or countered."

In Brawl- you can combo, so characters that don't combo aren't going to be able to compete with other characters that do. However, mk can combo (what a shocker). So I really don't think he can revert to the "hit and run" stuff that he could pull in vBrawl and still get away with it. ≈ no more campy mks. I really don't think he's the best character, though...

On the other hand, I totally agree with you on mk offstage, with the exception of one point. He's amazing. Dair is a pseudo-spike, there's more hitstun, and he's got everything he had in vBrawl. I'd say he can safely gimp about 4/5 of the cast?
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05/29/2010, 01:17 PM
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Pretty much.

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05/30/2010, 11:42 PM
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MK is reaaaally good in this. Top 5 atleast.

He has a really good spacing game, and if any of his ridiculously long ranged attacks hits you he can combo you, potentially off the stage, while having the best gimp game in the game. Amazing recovery, etc.

Oh and his dumbass jab.
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06/01/2010, 12:15 PM
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mks drill rush is ridiculous offstage.

its his best kill option imo.
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