09/21/2012, 08:45 PM
(09/21/2012 05:51 PM)Bullet Bill Wrote: [ -> ](09/21/2012 05:33 PM)ImaClubYou Wrote: [ -> ]Snake is good. His B moves are unnecessary, except UpB, they are more of a bonus. Try using Snakes 1st or 2nd hit of nair as you would Falcon's 1st hit of nair. Same with Dair. Jab is great tool for snake to grab, UpB can be used for more than just OoS, utilt is a great move. dtilt.. I personally don't use it much, Bair and Uair are very strong finishers and edgeguards.
Stick a C4 if possible.
Snake's B moves are most definitely necessary. The grenades are still a very good projectile and C4 sticks are basically essential to Snakes game. You can't play him effectively by just using aerials
Also, I still think too many people are assuming fox is the best PM character and forgetting about Lucario
Hence, I said his UpB and C4 are really good. Grenade being unnecessary as in he doesn't need them for anything other than defense and using it for offense is just a nice little trick. Helps with zoning and moving your opponent away from you or towards you.
Grenade isn't used to kill. It can be used for stylin' UpB tricks but C4 is easier.
Side B isn't used much depending on MU. It does rape a recovering Ganon/Falcon and a few others, but it's not really good at high level and shouldn't be used when you and your opponent are both on stage.
C4 is godly.
Cypher is also godly. But people overate it's priority if you're off stage, that thing won't save you from attacks.
(09/21/2012 06:24 PM)OkamiBW Wrote: [ -> ]I was curious as to who qualifies as an "educated" player too, lol.
Fox really doesn't feel as though he has any bad match-ups. They don't seem as heavily in his favor largely due to him not being as fast as Melee, but regardless, nothing feels uphill.
Lucario on the other hand feels as though he has bad match-ups. Lucario vs Peach feels like its in Peach's favor, at least from my end of it (Peach). I'm not exactly sure why, but DK vs Lucario feels in DK's favor too. DK's got a guaranteed Cargo U-throw U-air kill even at like 150%. B-air's got a lot of range against Lucario too.
I agree with DK/Lucario MU. It seems that DK can handle Lucario's anything
(09/21/2012 06:55 PM)Professor Pro Wrote: [ -> ]Im sorry, but Lucario is the best in the game, no other character in Smash History has ever had the features he has, it's the OHC cancel mix with Supers and command grabs which make him ridiculous.
It does require a great amount of tech skill to be able to pull it off his bullshiz but play someone who understand how to use the character like Fuzzyness and see Leffen's Lucario on youtube and you'll start to understand how silly Lucario actually is
And btw with your comment about Lucario losing to Peach, I just want to let you know that Leffen's Lucario has been beating Armada's Peach....so yeah, that's a big sign for things to come lol.
Armada went towards Pit in PM this time around, at least from last time I heard. His PM Peach might not be up to par. Any little difference from the conversion from Melee to PM is a big difference.
*Looks at everyone complaining about Fox and Falco*