09/02/2012, 01:43 AM
I can find common ground, I just disagree with Ike above 20th place at this early of a metagame. It's fine that you think otherwise; that's why we have a tier list of averages, not of extremes.
(09/02/2012 02:02 AM)MCO Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with what you are saying. But I don't think you understand what I'm saying.
I am not asking to drastically change the tier list. I am saying, that the 25th worst character CANNOT do as well as Vro's Ike. That's all.
(09/02/2012 02:03 AM)Kink-Link5 Wrote: [ -> ]And why can't they? When a cast is as purposefully (sic.) balanced as this game is, I would certainly hope a vast majority of the characters can do well.
(09/02/2012 02:08 AM)MCO Wrote: [ -> ]And I don't believe the game is thaaat balanced (yet) or there wouldn't be a 25 point spread in our tier list average.
(09/02/2012 02:08 AM)MCO Wrote: [ -> ]Cause it hasn't happened before. (Cept Taj, but he's god)
(08/31/2012 03:53 PM)Roooster Wrote: [ -> ]I'd agree with Hyperception here. I'm not only agreeing is Mario S tier, but I also agree that he and Eli are clearly smash prophets.
They're also actually good at this game, something that a lot of these tier lists makers aren't.
Quote: 1) There isn't enough tourneys/players for every character to get a certain level of dedication put into them yetThough you could argue that the reason characters aren't used, is because nobody wants to lose... and using a noticeably worse character isn't a winning strategy. Fox and Falco were the most used characters in melee....why? ^thats why.
(09/02/2012 12:32 AM)Bubbaking Wrote: [ -> ]Well, you know what? I also think that Charizard "ISN'T trash." Everyone in P:M is pretty solid. Eli proceeds to destroy people with G&W. However, I DO think that there are chars who received less viable tools than others and I think both Zard and Wa-Wa-Wario are two of those characters. Zard can actually go OUT there to net a gimp and still make it back, unlike.....Wario. If Wario doesn't kill you straight from the stage, I don't see him getting any KOs worth noting. Also, Charizard can chase you all the way to the vertical blastzone to get his kills. Sure, his hits have trouble linking, but the dragon's a solid fighter, IMO.
Yes, Charizard needs buffs. There is NO excuse for that utilt he currently has and approaching's stupidly difficult for him at times, but he's not a broken record. He's just a scratched disc. Polish him off and he'll be right as rain.