Here is the first of our highlight videos, done by Thunda-Moo.
Here is...
BOWSER!
And, as a bonus for those who haven't yet seen it,
Link's Finishing Blow.
Everything subject to change.
Minor, minor edit:
Mark your calendars, guys.
March 1st, 2012
Prepare yourself.
Bowser looks amazingly fun. Not too sure about the link move, looks gimmicky, but ill wait to release to see. Can't wait for release ^_^
"Looks Gimmicky" in a game where Ike is a helicopter?
(02/16/2012 04:11 AM)Kink-Link5 Wrote: [ -> ]"Looks Gimmicky" in a game where Ike is a helicopter?
This made me laugh so much for some reason, lol.
Other characters changed too right? Id be intrested in a list haha
(02/16/2012 02:21 AM)Ls777 Wrote: [ -> ]Bowser looks amazingly fun. Not too sure about the link move, looks gimmicky, but ill wait to release to see. Can't wait for release ^_^
It's gimmicky, but it's not really a huge game-changer, just a nifty little thing to use (although it does make fsmash a lot safer). The coolest stuff you can do with that is actually a
glitch feature that wasn't mentioned in the video.
(02/16/2012 12:43 PM)Blink Wrote: [ -> ]Other characters changed too right? Id be intrested in a list haha
We've got some guys working on it. There aren't going to be huge changes to everyone, but a few characters really got some updates.
that bowser bomb cancel thing seems like its probably gonna be really easy and automagic..... looks gimmicky as shit.
actually bowser just looks super gimmicky.
so whats the point of links automatic down air?? he can do that in the air already only much faster and more effectivley...
(02/16/2012 01:19 PM)GKirbz Wrote: [ -> ]that bowser bomb cancel thing seems like its probably gonna be really easy and automagic..... looks gimmicky as shit.
It's harder than it looks, and mistiming it really opens you up. Plus, it's not exactly lagless either way.
Quote:actually bowser just looks super gimmicky.
Eh, it's actually pretty interesting. Gimmicky he ain't.
Quote:so whats the point of links automatic down air?? he can do that in the air already only much faster and more effectivley...
The movement angle and the speed and direction from which it comes. You might be able to move like that with running short hop dair, but not from a neutral stance like that.
Oh, and because it's canon.
(02/16/2012 01:53 PM)The Cadet Wrote: [ -> ] (02/16/2012 01:19 PM)GKirbz Wrote: [ -> ]that bowser bomb cancel thing seems like its probably gonna be really easy and automagic..... looks gimmicky as shit.
It's harder than it looks, and mistiming it really opens you up. Plus, it's not exactly lagless either way.
Quote:actually bowser just looks super gimmicky.
Eh, it's actually pretty interesting. Gimmicky he ain't.
Quote:so whats the point of links automatic down air?? he can do that in the air already only much faster and more effectivley...
The movement angle and the speed and direction from which it comes. You might be able to move like that with running short hop dair, but not from a neutral stance like that.
Oh, and because it's canon.
it looks REALLY easy so that doesnt say much.
its basically bowser with an even easier version of foxes drill utilt LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
and all those bowerscide things.... SCREAM gimmicks.
and your right, you cant make it move that speed and angle, but the regular dair version has better spacing for the way link moves.
(02/16/2012 02:02 PM)GKirbz Wrote: [ -> ]it looks REALLY easy so that doesnt say much.
...It's not. It'll take some practice... But then again, so what?
Quote:its basically bowser with an even easier version of foxes drill utilt LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
wat
Quote:and all those bowerscide things.... SCREAM gimmicks.
You mean one of the most effective tech chases in the game? Or a pretty nifty alternate option to the flying slam in the air? Time to learn the difference between gimmicks and options.
Quote:and your right, you cant make it move that speed and angle, but the regular dair version has better spacing for the way link moves.
And you don't have to use it. It's just canon and pretty damn cool.
(02/16/2012 02:46 PM)The Cadet Wrote: [ -> ] (02/16/2012 02:02 PM)GKirbz Wrote: [ -> ]it looks REALLY easy so that doesnt say much.
...It's not. It'll take some practice... But then again, so what?
Quote:its basically bowser with an even easier version of foxes drill utilt LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
wat
Quote:and all those bowerscide things.... SCREAM gimmicks.
You mean one of the most effective tech chases in the game? Or a pretty nifty alternate option to the flying slam in the air? Time to learn the difference between gimmicks and options.
Quote:and your right, you cant make it move that speed and angle, but the regular dair version has better spacing for the way link moves.
And you don't have to use it. It's just canon and pretty damn cool.
drill>utilt>repeat is a pretty well known fox bread and butter combo, that bowser bomb>dair thing is pretty much the same except with like one less input. trust me its gonna be easy.
bowerscide was a gimmick move in vbrawl its a gimmick move now, and tbh theres no point in doin any of those other bowsercide options cept the instant bowsercide and the impalement one. which arent really options and make the other options pointless.
isnt links down air a canon? :/ if not the same canon.
Link's Down-Air is indeed canon. So is finishing blow.
It was just a cool little thing thunda(?) came up with. Doesn't noticably change Link's game, but gives him a way to mix up.
Also from playing Bowser, Bowser Bomb -> aerial isn't autocombo. I'd love if it was, lol, but it's not.
Also, impale bowser bomb fails at high percents. You can't instant bowsercide unless they're RIGHT on the ledge. The techchase of RBG DThrow/alt grounded klaw is far better than bowserciding. Did you not notice the throw does 21%? And then his killing throws, namely normal FThrow/Flying Slam/RBG UThrow/RBG BThrow are actually quite strong.
To call a character based around command grabs gimmicky is a large stretch. It's like calling Tager in BB gimmicky because of his command grab focus (He IS gimmicky, this IS BB we're talking to, but that's because of his magnetism mechanic, not the grabs)
(02/16/2012 03:03 PM)Supreme Dirt Wrote: [ -> ]Link's Down-Air is indeed canon. So is finishing blow.
It was just a cool little thing thunda(?) came up with. Doesn't noticably change Link's game, but gives him a way to mix up.
Also from playing Bowser, Bowser Bomb -> aerial isn't autocombo. I'd love if it was, lol, but it's not.
Also, impale bowser bomb fails at high percents. You can't instant bowsercide unless they're RIGHT on the ledge. The techchase of RBG DThrow/alt grounded klaw is far better than bowserciding. Did you not notice the throw does 21%? And then his killing throws, namely normal FThrow/Flying Slam/RBG UThrow/RBG BThrow are actually quite strong.
To call a character based around command grabs gimmicky is a large stretch. It's like calling Tager in BB gimmicky because of his command grab focus (He IS gimmicky, this IS BB we're talking to, but that's because of his magnetism mechanic, not the grabs)
its pretty gimmicky to have one throw>smash do 50%...
it certainly looks like an autocombo.... but i have serious doubts on this forums take on what combos are tho cuz you guys say falcon cant ZTD and i say he does it all the damn time.(if not damn close to it)
but yeah his impale throw is now useless imho that i know that(gimmick) cuz everyone mashes out of impale rather instantly(same as how you can mash with anyone before or during pummel 1 of a grab)
and the instant bowsercide wouldnt be hard to set up at all and will probably happen alot. especially out of tech chases. lol.
He doesn't have throw->smash for 50. He has throw->hard read->smash for maybe 40, and that's if you make a pretty difficult read. And no, downB->dair does not combo very long. Maybe once if your opponent has crappy DI.
The fact that you can mash out of the impale throw is known. I'm not sure what we're going to do about it, though.
Also, I've been playing this bowser extensively for several weeks; not once have I managed to set up the instant bowsercide. The spacing on that is really, really tight, and if your opponent isn't already being pushed off the ledge, it's not likely to happen.
(02/16/2012 04:41 PM)The Cadet Wrote: [ -> ]He doesn't have throw->smash for 50. He has throw->hard read->smash for maybe 40, and that's if you make a pretty difficult read. And no, downB->dair does not combo very long. Maybe once if your opponent has crappy DI.
The fact that you can mash out of the impale throw is known. I'm not sure what we're going to do about it, though.
Also, I've been playing this bowser extensively for several weeks; not once have I managed to set up the instant bowsercide. The spacing on that is really, really tight, and if your opponent isn't already being pushed off the ledge, it's not likely to happen.
yeah but you dont know how tech chase characters work. i think itll be SUPER easy. unless its like foxes melee dthrow on melee bowser where it only happens at like one absolute point in space.
(02/16/2012 04:45 PM)GKirbz Wrote: [ -> ]yeah but you dont know how tech chase characters work. i think itll be SUPER easy. unless its like foxes melee dthrow on melee bowser where it only happens at like one absolute point in space.
Have we met? I gave this guy armor on crouch for a way to beat get up attacks.
Again: I have been playtesting the shit out of this character. You have not yet touched the finished build. Kindly defer judgement, kthx
(02/16/2012 05:19 PM)The Cadet Wrote: [ -> ] (02/16/2012 04:45 PM)GKirbz Wrote: [ -> ]yeah but you dont know how tech chase characters work. i think itll be SUPER easy. unless its like foxes melee dthrow on melee bowser where it only happens at like one absolute point in space.
Have we met? I gave this guy armor on crouch for a way to beat get up attacks. Again: I have been playtesting the shit out of this character. You have not yet touched the finished build. Kindly defer judgement, kthx
what does that armor have to do with anything i just wrote? LOL.
you can say that all you want it doesnt change the fact that the bowser of this videos instant bowsercide will be easy.
im not judging whether it will be OP or otherwise, just saying its gonna be really easy. regardless of your play testing being able to prove otherwise.
...Yeah, good luck with that.
(he's wrong)
good luck with what? im not doing anything nor have stated plans to do so.
its ok. i know you arent very good at english.
Please refrain from childish ad hominem. Your abrasive immature attitude is what got you banned before.