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Well I guess I should start this thread up...

So, how about that side-B.

P.S. Should I post the semi-guide on these forums?

You might as well, we got a lof of wolf users. I'd like to see more people doing guides on the characters, I'll be happy to do a guide for my main, once I decide who it will be. It'll most likely be someone from the "needs some love"-section in my thread.

Come to think of it, I dreamed that I was playing wolf tonight X)

wolf cant dair to up b properly, its gay.

Screw D-air to Up-B, I have U-air to Up-B.

dude that combo isnt as effective of a killer

We don't increase ugrav. ever. So just find something new. like tilted fsmash to fair to uair to upb

Wolf has got awesome stuff, I totally agree with the video a while ago that said "Don't change anything about the starfox crew, they're awesome".

That is, don't remove any of their current elements, since they are damn cool all of them. buff/debuffs are not totally out of place, right now I found it very weird that Wolf best kill move, all categories except for spiking, is his bair, which means thar going for a kill using another move (like smashes folks?) is not worth it.

(04/17/2010 01:45 PM)gangstakirby Wrote: [ -> ]dude that combo isnt as effective of a killer

But it works perfectly to kill after a juggle.

I have a suggestion for the blaster.

First, could someone please remove the momentum cancel that is caused when using it? I am so sick of trying to jump up and use the blaster at the top of my jump, only to find I'm 3/4 of the way to the ground by the time the laser is fired because it drops wolf like a stone the moment the move is started.

Second, just for fun, can anyone make the laser blob he shoots look like an energy fist, flying out to punch the target? Maybe alter the knockback to look like the target really did just get punched...

(04/17/2010 03:57 PM)Rkey Wrote: [ -> ]Wolf has got awesome stuff, I totally agree with the video a while ago that said "Don't change anything about the starfox crew, they're awesome".

That is, don't remove any of their current elements, since they are damn cool all of them. buff/debuffs are not totally out of place, right now I found it very weird that Wolf best kill move, all categories except for spiking, is his bair, which means thar going for a kill using another move (like smashes folks?) is not worth it.

Maybe I need to play Minus more, but I'm nearly positive that bair doesn't kill. It's ALL about the ftilt -> uair -> up-B. Up-B is my killer, 9/10 times. The last 1/10? Dsmash.

Then again, I played a fair amount of vBrawl Wolf, so maybe bair is just really underwhelming. Or maybe I just haven't played Minus is too long.

But I'm sure I've been underwhelmed by bair. It's like, I'm trying to KO with it, but it just ends up being used as a combo. Hrm.

Wolf's bair is now a kill move. It kills people at around 100%.

(05/13/2010 10:04 AM)MonkUnit Wrote: [ -> ]Wolf's bair is now a kill move. It kills people at around 100%.

Which is really silly, as said. It makes it like his best move, all categories.

Except for the wolfiport.

(05/13/2010 09:35 PM)filbert Wrote: [ -> ]Except for the wolfiport.

Touché, however my point is that bair needs a kb nerf.

Or his other moves need more growth. None of my friends are good at Wolf. Do we all just suck, or is Wolf not that good? (Either are possible).

You don't SUCK, you just probably dont know what you're doing.

And fyi fair is a WAY better move than bair.

Is there something I'm missing? I feel like he's the worst character in the game. I like his new n-air, but I'd like it more if it had the priority of Luigi's n-air and instead of dealing 1-5% it dealt 5-25%. Still, I feel like he's the worst character in the game! His side-b should be able to be canceled by any action, not just aerials! Just something to think about.

In list form of what I've been thinking about:
-Better run speed
-more % n-air
-higher priority n-air
-a little bit better second jump
-forward-B canceled by anything (e.g. marth!)

Or, just have forward-B not enter the "helpless" state regardless of if it is cancelled or not.

He's not bad, his shine has a lot of potential and that side-b is the reason people main him. His uair-juggles are insane, and he gets such early kills.

Nair isn't good though, from my experience, but I might be using it wrong. For priority you should... bair if I'm correct? I'm not that experienced with wolf, all I know is frame perfect side-b -> uair -> side-b -> uair keeps you at the same horizontal height forever.

That's nuts, and a lot more about wolf than I know! His n-air definitely needs improvement.

Side-B -> Nair -> utilt is a beast combo that combos into uair chain, and, if at like 80%, will go off the top with up-B with quite a few characters.

I'll see if I can get a video of that.