Let's make an interesting OP.
I haven't played marth that much, but I know aerial neutral b will be a huge part of his game. Flying out spiking people looks very cool ^_^
How's the new side-b doing? Haven't tried it.
all you do with marth is fair>fair>dair
/discussion
My buddy is a Marth main in vbrawl and Brawl+, so he knows his character inside out.
What he likes about neutral B is in the air it sends him forward in minus.
What he hates is that on the ground it sends him backward in minus.
Any idea why its like that? Kinda makes it hard to hit the guy right next to you...
AFAIK it's to prevent marth from comboing the hell out of them. Kirk also put that in a long time ago probably as some sort of nerf.
As a Marfy main in B-, the only real problem is his lousy horizontal air movement in special fall.
its fine, glass canon status
plus marths grounded neutral b isnt even a nerf, it sets up for baiting spotdodge > tipper fsmash
iirc you can just jump and buffer neutral b and silde forward on the ground anytime anyways
GK has this one right. The grounded neutral b is really good. It makes it so you can get powershielded -> grab and gives you perfect spacing for fsmash.
yeah, its all about mindgaming it imho
My only complain about Marth is that you cannot "Up B" out of "Side B". It kills you a lot when you end up under the stage when you go to far before you can up B.
Ike can do anything out of his "Side B", I don't see why Marth shouldn't be able to do the same. Unless it's a coding problem.
(05/17/2010 04:28 PM)Shade_ Wrote: [ -> ]Ike can do anything out of his "Side B", I don't see why Marth shouldn't be able to do the same. Unless it's a coding problem.
Two different charcters, two different moves?
Side-b is changed a LOT in the unreleased build. Brace =)
Yeah, it's just I don't see why that would break Marth more than anything that others can do.
Oh God, whats gona happen to "Side-B"?!
(05/17/2010 06:38 PM)Shade_ Wrote: [ -> ]Oh God, whats gona happen to "Side-B"?!
Just use the shield breaker boost to recover. You can do it multiple times in a row, you can pivot it and you can perform any action right after. You can even use it to chase an opponent off-stage and use it again to return to the stage.
shield breaker in the air reminds me of eldirans zero.
and then i get sad.
Rkey, if you are referring to everyone wanted to put Ice, Fire, and Flower/electric on his side B, Imma slap a b1tch.
you could just type bitch
(06/14/2010 03:45 PM)gangstakirby Wrote: [ -> ]shield breaker in the air reminds me of eldirans zero.
and then i get sad.
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eldiran i want minus zero.
and i want b+ zero to not suck as much.
tho in vbrawl he is mk tier so i am fine with that one.
It could just be me, but I feel like the new Marth's spike is a little worse. The used to be able to combo with the sour spot and now you can't. Also his Up-B feels a lot weaker but that could be my imagination.